You know, if I was going to every major film festival with journalist pass, getting into world premieres and receiving screeners of latest films from all kind of studios, I would stop downloading movies too.
But since this is not the case for me and for the majority of people who watch movies, when many films just not available in some countries at all, and most of the people don't have service like Netflix, or don't want to blow all their money on DVDs, then torrents suddenly become very friendly.
So before any of you, self righteous and satiated bastards, say something bad about torrents, you may think a little about how your own life would be like without all the opportunities you accept as granted.
Eh, the torrent crowd is full of weird justifications for downloading everything they want just because they want it. Messages like this have no effect other than to cause clueless people to look up what torrents are.
Yes it hurts theaters. Yes it hurts smaller distributors. But individuals don't feel like their downloading alone is enough to hurt anyone, so it won't be stopped or slowed down through conscience pleas like this.
The whole discussion whether torrents hurt theaters or distributors is on the same level as discussion whether violence in the movies increases real life violence.
I don't think anyone has proper tools to actually measure it and come out with definite answers. You think I will make up any excuse to justify torrents, and I think your sense of righteousness and quick decision to condemn it comes from prejudice and lack of understanding, and I am pretty sure I can find there a bit of hypocrisy too.
You have money to see as much movies as you want - good for you, you keep doing that. But please don't generalize and judge all torrent users like you know everyone's intentions and motives.
Oh, please. Someone else owns it. You haven't paid for it. You have no inherent right to it. "I can't afford to pay for what I want so I may as well just steal it" is no justification.
Wasn't really referring to you, but you're pretty much proving my original point that these messages are completely useless for discouraging torrent users. And no, I don't have the money to watch all the movies I want. I have an ever-increasing list of R2 imports I wish I could afford. Not sure how that factors in though.
Oh, you're totally right Kevin. I originallyposted this just because I thought it was a funny, ballsy thing for the theater to do. I didn't expect someone to come out playing the oppression card over the lack of free consumer goods in their life.
A lot of indie and foreign flicks are sometimes only viewable through torrent downloads. Torrents, for me at least, are also a good way to screen movies to see if a DVD purchase is necessary.
No, no. "Someone owns it" and "when you download you steal it" is the lamest and most naive excuse ever. Please don't simplify this into some shallow morality lesson of right and wrong, like we are children or something. Justice in the world... ha-ha!
If capitalistic system defines movies, and art in general, as consumer's commodity, as someone's property, sometimes not even of the person who created it, but of person who paid him money to create it, then it should be prepared for consequences. Torrents and file sharing are not a big deal at all, it is just results of our ways of life, like hangover or garbage, and much less harmful than it is treated.
People just need to stop blowing it out of the proportions.
Oh god, this debate again.
Well, alright here goes...
I torrent because of several reasons:
1. I live in small town. It only has one cinema, and it shows about half of the bigger movies, so good luck seeing something slightly less mainstream.
2. I could go to a bigger town and see movies, but then I'd have to travel for longer than it'd take seeing the movie (usually at least), and it cost more than the actual ticket price. Obviously I'd never go only to see a movie (not completely true, I might if I really really wanted to see it), so I'm thinking about making it a day-trip.
3. Lack of monetary funds caused be studying. People on welfare get more than I do.
4. If I like a movie I will buy it. It might take me a while, and I might not buy expensive shiny collectors editions, but if it's good and especially if it's a lesser known movie I need it.
(This will likely change once I have a job and some actual money to spend on something else than noodles and beer.)
Those are my reasons. They're not arguments for, because I agree that it's not a-ok. (Morally that is. Culturally torrents might actually be good, all things considered.)
@Todd: It is pretty funny. Especially since it actually seems to have worked on a few people here. Feeling guilty makes you defensive, who knew!
I don't necessarily hate torrenters. Watching a downloaded movie because you are curious and there is no decent (or decently priced) version available is not inherently evil. Especially if you, when you like the movie, spread positive word of mouth about it and buy the movie eventually when it does become available.
Piracy won't kill cinemas, at least not if the industry keeps its wits. We heard the same stories when television became popular and when illegal VHS-tapes were all the rage, and cinemas are still here. That is actually the only part of nekrosoma's rant I can get behind. As long as cinemas are a fun night out (instead of an experience in customer harrassment) they will keep on existing.
But there is a specific brand of people I just cannot wrap my head around: those that accuse me of...whatever because I happen to BUY the movies I watch.
Colleagues and family (note I haven't said friends) have called me stupid because I import instead of download. I know people in China who mock the fact that I am probably the only person who owns a certain movie legally. The only illegal copies in my collection have been gifts (one from the director of the movie, with her signature on it even, because it was the only uncensored version out there).
I never buy anything known to be an illegal copy, be it a computer game or a movie. Call me crazy. Or rich. I'll call you an asshole right back.
Some people who see my collection say "Jesus, you must be rich". But I'm neither Jesus nor rich. Films are my single biggest hobby. My collection took over eight years to build and that is about a hundred months. Can you honestly say you cannot afford to buy 3, 4 or 5 movies a month, especially at todays DVD-prices, when you go bargain-hunting? Especially if this is your single biggest hobby?
And why is it that the person who calls me stupid or rich for buying films is often the same person who just bought a new amplifier for 600 USD, to replace the 500 USD one he bought two years ago? Or is torrenting through a brand-new notebook? And calling the movies "crap" the moment they've finished (allegedly) watching them?
As for being given stuff, that's certainly nice. I wish it happened more often. Given stuff makes up maybe 2 percent of my collection.
I also wish the stuff I was given was often of better quality. Sometimes I'm given screeners where the movie looks like a VHS-screen viewed through blue glass. One dreadful example was for a very long movie which (after 3,5 hours) had the last 20 minutes missing. That's either a great way to piss off reviewers, or the longest trailer ever!
A screener like that is almost bad enough to make you torrent the movie. Ahem...
Bottom line: don't judge us either. I like the picture above for flipping "bad" torrenters the bird. As such I am also fully behind Todd's title above the article.
"Good" torrenters need not feel offended: they know they're not harming the industry.
i don't like to name names but nekrosoma is off his banana. stealing intellectual property is not some harmless and necessary biproduct of capitalism. and in the long term it actually undermines the creation of new films.
When my local mall theater starts screening GOOD movies, and doesn't charge me 11$CAD a seat, plus 20$ for their crappy food (since they won't allow me to bring my own).... then I'll stop downloading movies.
But with tuition constantly going up, as well as my general cost of living, and the fact that I live in a dead town nothing whose idea of an art-house film is anything by Tarentino, The Pirate Bay and AvistaZ are my best friends.
Do you think I enjoy watching cams, choppy pre-screeners, and generally bad quality DVD rips on my little laptop? Hell no! But if the "art" of film was a little more affordable (face it, most movies with multi-million dollar budgets tend to suck and are therefore wastes of money that could be spent elsewhere), you can bet your ass I would be renting and going out a lot more than I do.
Reasons why cinemas go belly up isn't because of torrents. It's because of either a) bad locations or b) they aren't playing the latest Twilight sequel. SInce the beginning of time, those theaters who choose to screen lesser known, independent, art-house or genre films have been digging their own graves in competitions with Cinema Max's and Empire Theatres.
I would also like to reiterate the fact that PARANORMAL ACTIVITY is number 1 in box office. I downloaded it as it won't be playing in my theatre and God knows it won't be (and it wasn't) worth it to wait until it is released on DVD for 30$ at HMV.
As I said... lower the costs of theater seats and DVD costs and you will find yourself with a hell of a lot more people spending money. Every time you spend almost 30$ at the theater to see a new movie, that's a VERY expensive gamble for a lot of us.
I download almost everything, and if I like it, I will usually buy it on DVD (movie) or vinyl (if it's music). But there's no way anyone will catch me spending nearly 40$ on something I don't even know is any good.
Car dealerships allow test drives for a reason, folks.
I wasn't going to judge nekrosoma, but every subsequent post he made just dug himself deeper into the grave. Piracy and filesharing certainly is as much an issue as the way film studios and distributors are raping theatre owners. THAT is the reason they overcharge for tickets.
I can sympathise with the students and those living in small towns. I was a poor student not that many years ago. I can accept them downloading, if they truly treat the matter as a final option, and do occasionally pay for what they enjoy in order to support the films. However, the vast majority of downloaders are not poor and do not have restricted access to media. They're just cheap, unrepentent thieves with a book of 101 excuses.
Which brings me back to Nekrosoma. It is obvious from this guy's posts that he has no remorse downloading as much as he can, in order to avoid paying for them. Not so much because he cannot afford films, but because he feels he has the right to get for free what countless people spent months of their lives working to produce. Because it is apparently the 'capitalist' thing to do. Or some such nonsense. He is not special, or unique in his views. Unfortunately for his ego, he is not a champion of anything. He is not even a genuine film lover.
I live in Singapore, a country with strict censorship laws and a smaller market than most US states. I am saddened by the fact that I will likely be unable to watch half of the films reported on Twitch without spending lots of money. Like Ard Vijn, my DVD collection was built over years of buying originals and importing items not available locally. Whenever I go abroad, I go hunting for DVD bargains. I am not rich. I don't get to watch as many films as I would like. There are a lot of films which I want to own but cannot afford to purchase. Even then, I do not find it acceptable to download entire films and keep them as if I just paid for a digital copy or something. Nobody has unlimited money. Everyone has to prioritise. Too many arseholes download media just because they can avoid paying for it, and putting the money they saved (or stole, rather) towards buying their next beer. They are not hard up. They just don't want to pay for what they can get away with stealing.
A true film lover is someone who appreciates the sweat of the cast and crew in producing a film. A true film lover would not screw over the people working in films without a second thought, in order to get their own entertainment fix. THAT is nothing more than a self-absorbed little turd with a bloated sense of self-entitlement.
It's been proven that the people that download movies are also the people who spend the most on DVDs, movie tickets, entertainment memorbilia, cable service, etc. if they have the money to spend on it.
Genuine filmlovers wiill download...... and then buy the Bluray to get the nice HiDef picture with all the commentaries and extras. Ppl that don't download.. they also don't buy DVDs either. Or like films that much for that matter.
Paranormal Activity a movie they spent nothing on and marketed poorly is breaking box office records. And even the movie that "lost" the box office this past weekend, Saw VI made a profit. So during a year, where an industry is making nice profits during a severe economic downturn, who exactly is doing the whining here?
Proven by whom? I can just as easily say that people who download do not buy anything, and have no intention to.
You make the mistake of confusing cinema/theatre owners with film studios. Film studios generally have more money than god. That is not true of theatre owners, generally. They are the ones being shafted by film studios AND downloaders.
This is not an argument, for or against, it's just my story. I used to NEVER go to the theater. I'd just wait for stuff to show up on cable. I guess I didn't really like movies that much. Then I discovered torrents, and sites like this, and a whole new world opened up to me. I cancelled my cable subscription and at the time consciously did some math: I could buy 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 DVDs a month for what I was paying my cable company and they'd all be good films because I'd educated myself torrenting. As an aside, I'd be lucky if I saw 5 good movies a month via cable.
I still torrent and I still buy, and I take pleasure in both. The one eye-opener for me was, and it's the one that I feel less good about (true confession, except when it's useful) and this depends on where you live and who you know, I can walk into a "Store" where I live and get almost anything reeeeaaaal cheap.
I have friends who will buy almost anything I recommend to them. Yes, they have a crapload of disposable income and torrenting is too technologically difficult and time consuming for them.
The 'rush' I get from torrenting is similar to what, I think, you're supposed to get going to the theater: seeing something while it's hot and other people are talking about it. Very few films I'm interested in have much of a buzz at all when they finally become available on DVD.
People don't go to theaters to support the hard work of the people who make films, I don't think, but they do pour a bunch of money into a system. When I go to a festival screening I do feel like I'm supporting the people who make the films, and I'd feel like that even if I didn't pay money to see them. I feel the same way when I decide, yep, it's time to own this DVD.
I download some movies that I won't get to see in my country for a long time - if ever - and I simply can't wait to see them. Others I download because I know they probably aren't good enough to blow money on, but I still have some interest in seeing them (just to check out the fx or production design for example). I also buy A LOT of dvds (locally and international mail-order) and go out to the movies and film festivals all the time. Often I'll download a movie, like it, and buy the dvd as a result of that. It hasn't changed my cinema going and dvd buying habits at all. In fact downloading has enhanced my overall filmic experience. Am I the only person behaving this way? Of course not. Technology and the way we access art and entertainment has changed. Accept it, roll with the times and move on.
Please, Agent Wax, tell me more. You know so much about myself, you understand me, you look so deep into my rotten soul and know exactly what I am. How will I ever be able to live with myself without your insights?
Teach me more, oh the Enlightened one, show me the right way.
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You know, if I was going to every major film festival with journalist pass, getting into world premieres and receiving screeners of latest films from all kind of studios, I would stop downloading movies too.
But since this is not the case for me and for the majority of people who watch movies, when many films just not available in some countries at all, and most of the people don't have service like Netflix, or don't want to blow all their money on DVDs, then torrents suddenly become very friendly.
So before any of you, self righteous and satiated bastards, say something bad about torrents, you may think a little about how your own life would be like without all the opportunities you accept as granted.
I think I'd pay to see a lot more movies.
Eh, the torrent crowd is full of weird justifications for downloading everything they want just because they want it. Messages like this have no effect other than to cause clueless people to look up what torrents are.
Yes it hurts theaters. Yes it hurts smaller distributors. But individuals don't feel like their downloading alone is enough to hurt anyone, so it won't be stopped or slowed down through conscience pleas like this.
The whole discussion whether torrents hurt theaters or distributors is on the same level as discussion whether violence in the movies increases real life violence.
I don't think anyone has proper tools to actually measure it and come out with definite answers. You think I will make up any excuse to justify torrents, and I think your sense of righteousness and quick decision to condemn it comes from prejudice and lack of understanding, and I am pretty sure I can find there a bit of hypocrisy too.
You have money to see as much movies as you want - good for you, you keep doing that. But please don't generalize and judge all torrent users like you know everyone's intentions and motives.
I thought it was funny :(
Oh, please. Someone else owns it. You haven't paid for it. You have no inherent right to it. "I can't afford to pay for what I want so I may as well just steal it" is no justification.
Wasn't really referring to you, but you're pretty much proving my original point that these messages are completely useless for discouraging torrent users. And no, I don't have the money to watch all the movies I want. I have an ever-increasing list of R2 imports I wish I could afford. Not sure how that factors in though.
Oh, you're totally right Kevin. I originallyposted this just because I thought it was a funny, ballsy thing for the theater to do. I didn't expect someone to come out playing the oppression card over the lack of free consumer goods in their life.
A lot of indie and foreign flicks are sometimes only viewable through torrent downloads. Torrents, for me at least, are also a good way to screen movies to see if a DVD purchase is necessary.
No, no. "Someone owns it" and "when you download you steal it" is the lamest and most naive excuse ever. Please don't simplify this into some shallow morality lesson of right and wrong, like we are children or something. Justice in the world... ha-ha!
If capitalistic system defines movies, and art in general, as consumer's commodity, as someone's property, sometimes not even of the person who created it, but of person who paid him money to create it, then it should be prepared for consequences. Torrents and file sharing are not a big deal at all, it is just results of our ways of life, like hangover or garbage, and much less harmful than it is treated.
People just need to stop blowing it out of the proportions.
And by "blowing it out of proportions" I mean that silly message on the picture. They should have used "God kills a kitten" thing, much funnier.
LOL it's "EVERY TIME YOU BUY A NETFLIX SUBSCRIPTON, GOD KILLS A CINEMA" Simple math: (Blu-ray + LED HDTV) > Theater
not even mentioning that Paranormal Activity is number one at the box office even tho it totally leaked. Unless i just did.
Oh god, this debate again.
Well, alright here goes...
I torrent because of several reasons:
1. I live in small town. It only has one cinema, and it shows about half of the bigger movies, so good luck seeing something slightly less mainstream.
2. I could go to a bigger town and see movies, but then I'd have to travel for longer than it'd take seeing the movie (usually at least), and it cost more than the actual ticket price. Obviously I'd never go only to see a movie (not completely true, I might if I really really wanted to see it), so I'm thinking about making it a day-trip.
3. Lack of monetary funds caused be studying. People on welfare get more than I do.
4. If I like a movie I will buy it. It might take me a while, and I might not buy expensive shiny collectors editions, but if it's good and especially if it's a lesser known movie I need it.
(This will likely change once I have a job and some actual money to spend on something else than noodles and beer.)
Those are my reasons. They're not arguments for, because I agree that it's not a-ok. (Morally that is. Culturally torrents might actually be good, all things considered.)
@Todd: It is pretty funny. Especially since it actually seems to have worked on a few people here. Feeling guilty makes you defensive, who knew!
I don't necessarily hate torrenters. Watching a downloaded movie because you are curious and there is no decent (or decently priced) version available is not inherently evil. Especially if you, when you like the movie, spread positive word of mouth about it and buy the movie eventually when it does become available.
Piracy won't kill cinemas, at least not if the industry keeps its wits. We heard the same stories when television became popular and when illegal VHS-tapes were all the rage, and cinemas are still here. That is actually the only part of nekrosoma's rant I can get behind. As long as cinemas are a fun night out (instead of an experience in customer harrassment) they will keep on existing.
But there is a specific brand of people I just cannot wrap my head around: those that accuse me of...whatever because I happen to BUY the movies I watch.
Colleagues and family (note I haven't said friends) have called me stupid because I import instead of download. I know people in China who mock the fact that I am probably the only person who owns a certain movie legally. The only illegal copies in my collection have been gifts (one from the director of the movie, with her signature on it even, because it was the only uncensored version out there).
I never buy anything known to be an illegal copy, be it a computer game or a movie. Call me crazy. Or rich. I'll call you an asshole right back.
Some people who see my collection say "Jesus, you must be rich". But I'm neither Jesus nor rich. Films are my single biggest hobby. My collection took over eight years to build and that is about a hundred months. Can you honestly say you cannot afford to buy 3, 4 or 5 movies a month, especially at todays DVD-prices, when you go bargain-hunting? Especially if this is your single biggest hobby?
And why is it that the person who calls me stupid or rich for buying films is often the same person who just bought a new amplifier for 600 USD, to replace the 500 USD one he bought two years ago? Or is torrenting through a brand-new notebook? And calling the movies "crap" the moment they've finished (allegedly) watching them?
As for being given stuff, that's certainly nice. I wish it happened more often. Given stuff makes up maybe 2 percent of my collection.
I also wish the stuff I was given was often of better quality. Sometimes I'm given screeners where the movie looks like a VHS-screen viewed through blue glass. One dreadful example was for a very long movie which (after 3,5 hours) had the last 20 minutes missing. That's either a great way to piss off reviewers, or the longest trailer ever!
A screener like that is almost bad enough to make you torrent the movie. Ahem...
Bottom line: don't judge us either. I like the picture above for flipping "bad" torrenters the bird. As such I am also fully behind Todd's title above the article.
"Good" torrenters need not feel offended: they know they're not harming the industry.
God kills a kitten would've been pretty damn funny. Definitely agree there.
i don't like to name names but nekrosoma is off his banana. stealing intellectual property is not some harmless and necessary biproduct of capitalism. and in the long term it actually undermines the creation of new films.
Every time a blogger plugs a film for cash, god kills a visitor.
Quit the holier than thou act, unclean one.
When my local mall theater starts screening GOOD movies, and doesn't charge me 11$CAD a seat, plus 20$ for their crappy food (since they won't allow me to bring my own).... then I'll stop downloading movies.
But with tuition constantly going up, as well as my general cost of living, and the fact that I live in a dead town nothing whose idea of an art-house film is anything by Tarentino, The Pirate Bay and AvistaZ are my best friends.
Do you think I enjoy watching cams, choppy pre-screeners, and generally bad quality DVD rips on my little laptop? Hell no! But if the "art" of film was a little more affordable (face it, most movies with multi-million dollar budgets tend to suck and are therefore wastes of money that could be spent elsewhere), you can bet your ass I would be renting and going out a lot more than I do.
Reasons why cinemas go belly up isn't because of torrents. It's because of either a) bad locations or b) they aren't playing the latest Twilight sequel. SInce the beginning of time, those theaters who choose to screen lesser known, independent, art-house or genre films have been digging their own graves in competitions with Cinema Max's and Empire Theatres.
I would also like to reiterate the fact that PARANORMAL ACTIVITY is number 1 in box office. I downloaded it as it won't be playing in my theatre and God knows it won't be (and it wasn't) worth it to wait until it is released on DVD for 30$ at HMV.
As I said... lower the costs of theater seats and DVD costs and you will find yourself with a hell of a lot more people spending money. Every time you spend almost 30$ at the theater to see a new movie, that's a VERY expensive gamble for a lot of us.
I download almost everything, and if I like it, I will usually buy it on DVD (movie) or vinyl (if it's music). But there's no way anyone will catch me spending nearly 40$ on something I don't even know is any good.
Car dealerships allow test drives for a reason, folks.
I wasn't going to judge nekrosoma, but every subsequent post he made just dug himself deeper into the grave. Piracy and filesharing certainly is as much an issue as the way film studios and distributors are raping theatre owners. THAT is the reason they overcharge for tickets.
I can sympathise with the students and those living in small towns. I was a poor student not that many years ago. I can accept them downloading, if they truly treat the matter as a final option, and do occasionally pay for what they enjoy in order to support the films. However, the vast majority of downloaders are not poor and do not have restricted access to media. They're just cheap, unrepentent thieves with a book of 101 excuses.
Which brings me back to Nekrosoma. It is obvious from this guy's posts that he has no remorse downloading as much as he can, in order to avoid paying for them. Not so much because he cannot afford films, but because he feels he has the right to get for free what countless people spent months of their lives working to produce. Because it is apparently the 'capitalist' thing to do. Or some such nonsense. He is not special, or unique in his views. Unfortunately for his ego, he is not a champion of anything. He is not even a genuine film lover.
I live in Singapore, a country with strict censorship laws and a smaller market than most US states. I am saddened by the fact that I will likely be unable to watch half of the films reported on Twitch without spending lots of money. Like Ard Vijn, my DVD collection was built over years of buying originals and importing items not available locally. Whenever I go abroad, I go hunting for DVD bargains. I am not rich. I don't get to watch as many films as I would like. There are a lot of films which I want to own but cannot afford to purchase. Even then, I do not find it acceptable to download entire films and keep them as if I just paid for a digital copy or something. Nobody has unlimited money. Everyone has to prioritise. Too many arseholes download media just because they can avoid paying for it, and putting the money they saved (or stole, rather) towards buying their next beer. They are not hard up. They just don't want to pay for what they can get away with stealing.
A true film lover is someone who appreciates the sweat of the cast and crew in producing a film. A true film lover would not screw over the people working in films without a second thought, in order to get their own entertainment fix. THAT is nothing more than a self-absorbed little turd with a bloated sense of self-entitlement.
It's been proven that the people that download movies are also the people who spend the most on DVDs, movie tickets, entertainment memorbilia, cable service, etc. if they have the money to spend on it.
Genuine filmlovers wiill download...... and then buy the Bluray to get the nice HiDef picture with all the commentaries and extras. Ppl that don't download.. they also don't buy DVDs either. Or like films that much for that matter.
Paranormal Activity a movie they spent nothing on and marketed poorly is breaking box office records. And even the movie that "lost" the box office this past weekend, Saw VI made a profit. So during a year, where an industry is making nice profits during a severe economic downturn, who exactly is doing the whining here?
This is not an argument, for or against, it's just my story. I used to NEVER go to the theater. I'd just wait for stuff to show up on cable. I guess I didn't really like movies that much. Then I discovered torrents, and sites like this, and a whole new world opened up to me. I cancelled my cable subscription and at the time consciously did some math: I could buy 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 DVDs a month for what I was paying my cable company and they'd all be good films because I'd educated myself torrenting. As an aside, I'd be lucky if I saw 5 good movies a month via cable.
I still torrent and I still buy, and I take pleasure in both. The one eye-opener for me was, and it's the one that I feel less good about (true confession, except when it's useful) and this depends on where you live and who you know, I can walk into a "Store" where I live and get almost anything reeeeaaaal cheap.
I have friends who will buy almost anything I recommend to them. Yes, they have a crapload of disposable income and torrenting is too technologically difficult and time consuming for them.
The 'rush' I get from torrenting is similar to what, I think, you're supposed to get going to the theater: seeing something while it's hot and other people are talking about it. Very few films I'm interested in have much of a buzz at all when they finally become available on DVD.
People don't go to theaters to support the hard work of the people who make films, I don't think, but they do pour a bunch of money into a system. When I go to a festival screening I do feel like I'm supporting the people who make the films, and I'd feel like that even if I didn't pay money to see them. I feel the same way when I decide, yep, it's time to own this DVD.
I've never rented a movie in my life.
I download some movies that I won't get to see in my country for a long time - if ever - and I simply can't wait to see them. Others I download because I know they probably aren't good enough to blow money on, but I still have some interest in seeing them (just to check out the fx or production design for example). I also buy A LOT of dvds (locally and international mail-order) and go out to the movies and film festivals all the time. Often I'll download a movie, like it, and buy the dvd as a result of that. It hasn't changed my cinema going and dvd buying habits at all. In fact downloading has enhanced my overall filmic experience. Am I the only person behaving this way? Of course not. Technology and the way we access art and entertainment has changed. Accept it, roll with the times and move on.
Please, Agent Wax, tell me more. You know so much about myself, you understand me, you look so deep into my rotten soul and know exactly what I am. How will I ever be able to live with myself without your insights?
Teach me more, oh the Enlightened one, show me the right way.
"Welcome to the party, "Cinemas", and get used to it!"
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