Marie Antoinette Trailer Online

Excellent trailer. Costume dramas, even the good ones, often have these lame Mr. Movie Voice trailers. You know: "In a time..."

woo-hoo the trailer is out already. can't seem to download it though. will wait for it to come out on apple.com

lost in translation was racist, and this just looks like some lamely ironic music video.

i'm asian, and i didn't find that movie to be racist. japan can be that odd looking for an outsider.

I think certain scenes, such as the elevator shot that implies all Japanese are 2 feet shorter than Americans, and the "lip my stocking" scene could be construed as racist.
I can't say I've been impressed by any of Sofia Coppola's films so far. They look nice, but there's really nothing much to them.

Kirsten Dunst...naked.

SOLD.

Good trailer, it's a punk history film.

GOOD GOD! I'm leaving my wife for Kirsten Dunst!

Oh yeah - and wtf with the LiT being racist? Does absolutely EVERYTHING have to be racist with you Liberals? I don't even have a clue what you're talking about.

I liked LOST IN TRANSLATION although by the time I saw it the flick had been so over-hyped that it was hard just to watch it and not sit there answering those who worshipped it in my head. It was like being insane only without any of the fun.

I did think the "lip my stocking" scene was stupid. It pandered to the idea that people who can't speak English correctly are laughable. Having been on the receiving end of that when I lived in Hong Kong and every attempt I made to seak Cantonese was met with "Yes, your Cantonese if very ugly, let's speak English" or laughter I thought it was a cheap shot for what was otherwise a relatively classy movie.

If MARIE ANTOINETTE keeps the tone of the trailer I'm so there. I've always been baffled by the Hollywood idea that movies about history should be stultifying and slow. China, Hong Kong and Japan have always had a grand old time pillaging their past in movies and in pulp novels and making fast-paced, punked out flicks about history that really work and don't feel like someone's class project.

The only Western director who I can think of who did that is Alex Cox in WALKER, which was universally reviled but which I really liked a lot. You could maybe throw Sergio Leone's Westerns and Nicholas Ray's JOHNNY GUITAR in there as well.

So if this is the tone of the movie, and not just something thrown together for the trailer, then I'm very there.

Nice trailer. This goes on my list of films I must see. Now if only Roman would make more features...

I really liked "Lost in Translation." I see it as a film that critiques the American touristic gaze while simultaneously celebrating it. Any claim that the film is "racist" seems to me to be a drastic oversimplification -- I think there's more going on than that. I'm not a big fan of the "lip my stocking" scene, though.

kristen dunst??? the troll without cleavage?!

"Does absolutely EVERYTHING have to be racist with you Liberals"

HAW HAW! That's dumb as. I haven't seen the film, so I dunno maybe lost in translation is racist. But you respond to some troll by calling them a 'Liberal'?

How about this shit; does everything disagreeable have to Liberal with you ... conservatives?

Sounds stupid doesn't it? I like the assumption that this person is a liberal too (like that's inherently bad). Oh dear.

As for the trailer... well, they used one of my fave New Order tracks and I think that's an interesting paring considering it's a period piece. I vote they fill the film with new wave tunes. That would actually be cool.

I stopped paying attention to the racist comments when I realized that the VAST majority of them were being made by people who though Murray's appearance on the talk show was some sort of parody, blissfully unaware that that's an actual, very highly rated show and the host made Murray really appearing on the show a condition of his appearing in the film.

As to that elevator shot, Jasper, it's only an issue is Coppola went and had Murray stand on a box to get it. I'm not sure of his exact height but he's not a short man. You'd get the exact same effect if you were to take a picture of me - I'm 6'5" - standing next to some average height Japanese. There's nothing racist about the fact that I'm much taller than the vast majority of Japanese people, it's just how life is.

And I think a lot of the racist comments miss part of the point of the film. It's not about Japan at all and makes no attempt at summarizing or explaining Japanese culture. It's about disorientation in a foreign country and people's perception of that place on first arrival, which will inevitably be hugely skewed as they have no means of filtering and understanding what's around them.

sure the movie is about the american perspective (whether or not sofia coppola intentionally "skewed" it is questionable), but a movie about a skewed perception isn't necessarily innocent of holding that skewed perception itself. if you made a movie about disorientation in multi-cultural america from the point of view of a klansman, that would still be racist obviously.

here's a website: www.lost-in-racism.org

also, lost in translation was just a mediocre movie in general. sofia coppola is the filmmaking version of a scenester.

You're equating Bill Murray in Lost in Translation with a Klansman? You, sir, are out of your mind.

And no, a movie about a Klansman would NOT necessarily be racist. It would acknowledge that racism exists, yes, but that is not even remotely the same thing as endorsing it.

www.lost-in-racism.org

Lol! That's actually a real website - I can't believe it. Well I guess it IS true. Everything DOES have to be about racism with liberals.

I love this quote from the website:

"Such portrayals perpetuate negative stereotypes and attitudes that are harmful to Asian Americans in the United States where a significant minority of Americans already have negative attitudes towards Asian Americans."

Oh yeah. ALL those negative stereotypes about Asians...

...that they work hard...

...have strong families...

...are smart and well educated...

...are generally very law abiding people who mind their own business...

ALL those negative stereotypes!! Shit I wish everyone had those sorts of stereotypes about me!! I have no idea what sort of alternate universe liberals in this country are living in.

i was just making an extreme analogy. lost in translation portrays a "skewed american perspective" by empathizing with the americans and reshaping all of tokyo according to it, i.e. playing up all the stereotypes.

i'm saying that's analogous to making a movie from a klansman's perspective and portraying all minorities in america as inferior/savage to fit the klansman's skewed perspective.

of course, lost in translation doesn't approach that extreme at all, but i have a feeling that maybe 20 years down the line it's going to start looking like breakfast at tiffany's or sixteen candles.

also, venmax, just shut up.

Venmax, why not just stick with arguments about the issue at hand? No need to make this about your dislike of liberals, because that has nothing to do with whether or not someone thinks Lost in Translation is racist.

("a film from a klansman's perspective" is completely different from "a film about a klansman.")

one problem with lost in translation is that it doesn't really seem to have any self awareness

It's an american film abouthan american experience in a strange land based on the real life experience of Coppla's first stay in Japan, so of course it empathizes with the americans. If it was about Japan or the Japanese and it skewed things then I would agree, but it isn't about that at all. Japan and the Japanese culture and people are there purely as setting, they exist in the film for no reason other than to disorient Murray and Johansen. Perhaps that's what's upsetting to people, but Coppola is making a film about two people not about a culture and as a consequence is interested in that culture only to the degree that it affects those two people. It's a perfectly valid approach that says nothing at all about her actual feelings about the Japanese. I just feel like trying to draw conclusions about Japan from a film that is not at all about Japan is an inherently flawed approach. And, for what it's worth, I have friends who have spent significant time in Japan and had the exact same emotional experience. It rings true for what it is trying to do ...

Now, if we were talking Memoirs of a Geisha ... fire away on that one ... that's cultural appropriation to the extreme ...

oh, so how tall is sofia coppola?

also, if you're 6'5", you'll stand a head above average sized people in any country, so coppola was obviously drawing from a stereotype of japanese people rather than making fun of bill murray.

for one thing, this film's ethnocentrism and usage of stereotypes is just plain irresponsible in the cultural context. and just because the talk show actually exists doesn't make the use of it ok. a similar example: pearl harbor was a historical event, but hollywood making a film about it recently, when americans' anti-asian sentiment is already kind of high, is just irresponsible and stupid, especially when portrayals of asian people in general in mainstream media are so narrow and limited. what if they made a movie about 9-11 from an american perspective and villified muslims? what if they made an american film about an african cannibal?

and i think the claim that LiT is not about japan or its people is bogus. it depends on japanese people acting really stereotypical and ridiculous for its portrayal of the white characters' alienation to work.

"also, if you're 6'5", you'll stand a head above average sized people in any country, so coppola was obviously drawing from a stereotype of japanese people rather than making fun of bill murray."

Okay, Bill Murray may be tall even around here, but that only makes the joke more extreme, not invalid. When my wife and I were in Tokyo last, we were easily able to find each other in a crowd by looking over the heads of the people around us and we're both just around 5'10".

I think part of the problem with LiT is that Sofia Coppola didn't consider her audience enough. I think the parts that could be seen as making fun of Japan are delivered with a kind of a wink to let people know that she's not being totally serious, that she's had experience in Japan and she's giving the culture a good-natured ribbing. The problem is that this is easily misinterpreted. However, the tone of the film doesn't seem to communicate the superiority that is inherent in "racism."

(And since we're discussing American culture vs. Japanese culture, wouldn't "culturalist" be a better term, anyway? I mean, a racist view would have to communicate some sort of superiority based on basic racial categories, something I cannot see at all in the film. But if you want to discuss this in terms of culture, then you might be able to make an argument.)

look, i was watching for the wink and it didn't happen.

also, i think that whenever the term "racism" is used, people think that some overt hostility needs to be involved. and anyway, there's an inherent but subtle "superiority" anyway in portraying a group of people as caricatures while another group is well developed.

yes, culture is involved too, but ethnicity is intertwined with nationality. (it doesn't help either that most people in america think that "chinese" is synonymous with "asian"; the fact that this film is supposed to be about japanese culture and not asian people in general went over the heads of most of its audience, i'm sure.) and there's an implicit racialism in a culturalist film where the cultural lines overlap obvious racial lines.

Marie Antoinette: I am so there. Nice trailer, lively and surreal.

As for Lost in Translation as a racist film -- Whoa people, calm down a bit on this...there is a tongue planted firmly in cheek on the gentle mocking of the extremes of Tokyo culture.

Now, the casual racism and sexism in your average mainstream Hollywood is worse by a long shot, and it is certainly present in other world cinemas today.

I think if were even possible to take an average of this sort of thing, LiT would be far below the middle ground of racism in films.

Chill Out Folks. Please.

re: the height thing--the fact that bill murray is tall in general makes the joke more racial because it attempts to exaggerate the racial stereotype. will people watch the film and say "wow, bill murray is really tall" or "haha, those chinese are short"? why did coppola pick a particularly tall actor to highlight this stereotype? and why were all the japanese men in the elevator almost all the exact same height as each other, as if there's no variation in height there? and why were they all men (isn't that emasculating)?

selection is everything. again, to take this to the extreme: if you were a nazi filmmaker and you were making a propaganda film, you would choose the tallest, best looking, best built aryans for your actors and play them against the shortest, ugliest jews.

why does a person who writes a scene that revolves around the line "lip my stocking" get so much fucking critical acclaim and united defense against accusations of racial/cultural insensitivity?

i'm not saying that LiT is the most racist film out there. but the fact that it's almost unanimously considered so great (which it isn't; sofia coppola is a hack; all she does is steal elements from hipster culture and all the most popular american indie films out there and mash it all together) and is defended all of the time that makes it worth talking about.

I agree with Paul. I heard that Sofia Coppola wanted to cast Danny DeVito, but then she thought "oh wait, if I use a taller actor I can belittle those filthy Japanese by making fun of their height. Let's see, what actor is tall enough? Bill Murray? Hm, I don't really like his acting, but I really want to make fun of those tiny Japanese, so let's cast him anyway."

I'm a big lover of LiT, but personally, I know a lot more folks who strongly dislike the film over 'love it' (Film folks and casual viewers). This film came out of wave of festival love into a general audience and was indeed over-hyped.

It is a movie that works a lot better if it sneaks up on you, which the film was never given a chance (See Grady's comments above). It's a mood-piece, and I feel the overall tone is more important than any specific details (although there are many in the film). Many of the supposedly 'racist' scenes (I'm guessing here) come within the hotel itself, which is painted as an executive tourist trap kind of place. These places are tacky in that they create a world 'sheltered' from the real vibe of the city (This is expertly mocked with both Anna Farris' character and the Lounge Singer who eventually sleeps with Murray's character.

I do not feel that LiT will ever get to the 'Breakfast at Tiffany's' level (a movie I detest for those Mickey Rooney Scenes) simply because well the film is about two characters who are feeling 'alienated' Every sequence is supposed to drive that home. I don't think anyone would argue that either Murray's Character or Johannson's character are noble people either in the film...both of them are quite a bit selfish and flawed.

Anyhow, I feel the film accomplished beautifully what it set out to do. It still remains a film I come back to again and again when I get in 'that mood.'

And if one wants to hack on Asian-themed films which make a mockery of Asian history or culture, Look no further than THE LAST SAMURAI or BLACK RAIN.....

it's late and I'm rambling...

S'long haters!

/out.

Says Paul: "just because the talk show actually exists doesn't make the use of it ok."

This is just silly. The show doesn't just exist, it's one of the top rated shows in the country and the one that all the foreign stars want to be on, i.e. EXACTLY the type of show that Murray's character would appear on. It's far stranger than either Letterman, Leno or Conan O'Brien but it fills the exact same cultural niche.

"the fact that bill murray is tall in general makes the joke more racial because it attempts to exaggerate the racial stereotype."

Also just plain silly. Casting a tall actor is somehow inherently degrading to anyone shorter than that actor? That's just ridiculous. David Morse must be one of the most racist bastards out there, then ... how dare he be so much taller than all of his costars!?! And I'm just screwed.

"the fact that it's almost unanimously considered so great (which it isn't; sofia coppola is a hack; all she does is steal elements from hipster culture and all the most popular american indie films out there and mash it all together) and is defended all of the time that makes it worth talking about."

And here's the reality of your argument: you have a personal dislike for the film and are grasping at straws to defend your personal taste. Disliking it is fine, but your arguments don't hold any water.

Just as a question, Paul, have you ever travelled internationally? If so, what did you notice about the cultures you were visiting? Was it the ways they were the same as your own or was it the differences? Because for virtually everyone in the world when you go someplace different it's the differences, and only the differences, that you see until you've been there long enough to capture a sense of the true rhythm of a place. Saying "This is really different and I'm finding it pretty weird" isn't racism, it's reality.

i never implied that "Casting a tall actor is somehow inherently degrading to anyone shorter than that actor"--youre misparaphrasing what i'm saying and then knocking it down. maybe you should try to actually listen to my argument instead of trying to find it "silly."

obviously she didnt choose bill murray just becuase of his height, but she used his height to create a visual joke based on a broad racial stereotype, which would obviously make people laugh at how short asian people are. it exaggerates this stereotype, making those men (and implying all asian men) seem extra short, for comic effect. coppola often resorts to these really cheap jokes.

i'll just say it again: whether or not the talk show actually exists is irrelevent to the fact that it plays up stereotypes and made a lot of asian people feel uncomfortable watching the film, including myself.

"And here's the reality of your argument: you have a personal dislike for the film and are grasping at straws to defend your personal taste."

the reality of my argument is that i was offended on an inherent level by the film and that's why i'm criticizing it. anyway, this is my last post. i didn't really expect to be able to get you to see the racism in the film; and i think i've said enough that someone who isnt ready to give a kneejerk reaction to my arguments might see some truth in them.

"obviously she didnt choose bill murray just becuase of his height, but she used his height to create a visual joke"

See I read it completely differently. She uses his height to reinforce that he is in a land where he is DIFFERENT from everyone around him. Which he is. That scene - and the entire movie - is not about the Japanese at all, but about Murray. The movie is about the experience of being stranded alone in a culture where you don't speak the language, can't read a street sign, are completely dependent on the people around you, and all of the major cultural touchstones are completely different from what you're used to. This film could have been set anywhere, in absolutely any country with a significant cultural divide, and achieved the exact same effect. It is about the Americans, not about the Japanese, but you seem determined to try and make it about something it has no desire to be about while also insisting that pointing out that something is different also implies saying that it is inferior. Acknowledging differences and the effects they have on people IN NO WAY implies moral judgement.

"whether or not the talk show actually exists is irrelevent to the fact that it plays up stereotypes"

Err ... think about what you're saying here. If you believe this then you'd best be prepared to go accuse Mathew himself and the millions of Japanese who watch his show religiously of racist behavior against themselves. It's an actual show, and that episode was rather tame by its standards. This is not 'stereotype', it is reality. You may not like that the show exists in reality but reality, frankly, does not give a damn. What's next? You going to accuse every film that hires a CNN anchor to put in appearance of being racist for stereotyping Americans and American television? Curse you Wolf Blitzer, you racist bastard all white and beard-y!

"i think i've said enough that someone who isnt ready to give a kneejerk reaction to my arguments might see some truth in them."

I think you're the one with the jerking knees here, Paul ... you're looking for ghosts where they don't exist and trying to force the film into places it doesn't belong. There are plenty of legitimate examples of racism and cultural appropriation on film, I just don't believe this is one of them.

NOIMRIGHT

whatever. bye.

Todd: Good points.

I liked Lost in Translation and especially that use of the music by My Bloody Valentine and for actually getting the feeling of jetlag and alienation on screen. I travel a bit for work and undertand this...

I thought Virgin Suicides was total genius. The storytelling and point-of-view is rarely done in modern cinema. Re-watch The Virgin Suicides and keep asking yourself, "Who is telling the story here?"

The Virgin Suicides is a story about teenage boys and one of the best I've read or seen in film.

well i finally saw the trailer and i liked it.

i guess it just follows the theme that every girl wants to be a princess.

when i first heard sofia coppolla was making this film, i thought it would be a big budget fiasco. but it looks like it's sticking to it's indie type roots. it will be very interesting to see her body of work unfold because of it's very feminine perspective which hardly gets touched upon most of the time on the big screen.

does anyone know who sing the song in the trailer?

i'm in love. notice the general at the end bowing w. the smirk was the college kid interning aboard in The Life Aquatic, which was w. Bill Murray who was in LiT. talk about inbreeding, but i don't care who reuses who in what hollywood hipster circle f*ck, i'm just glad none of the wilson brothers are in this.
i really am in love. this is my next virgin suicides, i think. dunst, who i love anyway, getting her head hacked off is just a bonus. music? not crazy about it. but compare it to the trailer for Tristan and Isolde and name your preference. i got that butterfly feeling in my stomach on first viewing of this. it's going to be my kind of movie. that's my only criterion.
my kind.

Age of Consent by New Order

saddly you all hove opinions(much like assholes) but not much common sense im seeing for the hope of another movie with a new order song in it. dunst is totaly hot but thats a far second to decent music in a period pice. saddly i have you idiots ruining the suspence for me GET A LIFE

People relax -- I am japanese and a liberal, and I loved Lost in Translation. And yes, I am shorter than most americans, and yes, Japan can be a pretty weird place. I agree w/ the guy saying it's not about Japan, though, it's about 2 people. and it's funny and touching. loved it.

My mom is french, so I guess that also makes me french, and let me tell you, if they portray the french as insensitive and mean to poor Kirsten in this movie, I won't complain. IT'S A MOVIE.

Wow people need to take a chill pill. It's just a MOVIE for pete's sake. I'm part japanese and totally embrace my japanese side. and i didn't find the movie racist at all. it's just about two people finding each other in a foreign place and immediately having an affinity for each other cause they can't sleep. i think sofia is just trying to contrast from what we see as "normal" because for japanese people the cultures of japan is obviously normal and natural. We see it differently. i'm sure the japanese people look at our culture and think "wow that is different". it's all very tongue and cheek. people please don't take it seriously!!!!!! i thought it was a very good movie. i loved it. i think she portrayed the japanese people in a lighthearted and funny manner. and i never thought of it as racist until i saw this site. jeez. LIGHTEN UP.

anyways i liked the marie antoinette trailer. the new order song captures the fun in that trailer. i thought it went well. can't wait to see it.

Ja mata.

LOVED the trailer, I will see it. But I have to know the name of that sonf that was playing. E-mail me the title at Kreco007@aol.com

I saw this movie in June. When I went to France. I really don't recommend seeing it though, it dragged the whole way through, and had a bad end. But Kirsten Dunst was really good!!!

I Love the Trailer!!!!
I'm seeing this film on opening night even with the bad reviews from the French @ Cannes. Bravo Sophia for mixing it up with New Order on the soundtrack. I expect this to be a visual feast and hope the rest of the music is in line with New Order's Ceremony.

Wow, I find it fascinating that Lost in Translation could be considered to be a racist movie. If you believe that, I think you completely missed the point of the movie. I always thought the theme was about feeling emotionally isolated as well as the difficulty of the two main characters trying to communicate their true feelings to each other. The cultural alienation is simply a metaphor for the emotional complexity of the characters. I find it sad that most people do not see this. Sofia Coppola is very talented, but perhaps too subtle for the masses.

I think that the trailer rocks and I can't wait to see the movie. I think that Maria Coppola knew what she was doing when she decided to make this film. I also think that the fact that it is a punk music history film is pretty cool too, however I don't know that name of the songs in the trailer which I would like too since they are rather good. If anyone knows them could you maybe post them back up on here or email me at miakischer@yahoo.com I would really like to know. Thanks.

Hey does anybody know the songs from this movie?

Does anyone know the name of song for the new trailer? "I don't want to be forgotten..."

the some with " i want to be forgotten, i dont want to be reminded" is by the strokes, and yes, i cant wait to see it, looks good ^_^